PerfectTrack Posted February 22, 2006 Report Posted February 22, 2006 you know, when you combine my surprised cow pic, with your jumping sheep, and then the look in the eyes of that one getting....um you know....it just makes me want to go and buy a farm, forget this whole helicopter business :up: Anyone have a tractor and size 11 rubber boots for sale? Quote
Skidz Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Nah PT, The common theme here is that pilots and hengineers are just a bunch of animals... Quote
jetbox Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 jetbox ----------can you say "combining gearbox" then? I'm not sure if you're agreeing of disagreeing with me Cap. Let me clarify my position. When I say "older twins" I mean 212's, twin stars, and anything designed before 1990 (with the exception of the Super Puma which I understand has fabulous one engine performance) When I say newer, I mean the EC135, 155, Explorer, S92, etc. What I consider new generation A/C. I haven't really heard of any catastrophic failures associated with these newer design helicopters. If anyone knows of any, please enlighten me. As far as gearboxes, I don't know much about combining gearboxes but I understand that the Astar gear box was tested for six hours at max power with no oil without making any metal. Traditionally, main gearboxes don't seem to be an issue. Although I remember an incident with an input quil on an S61 on the west coast, and wasn't there an issue with C-boxes on 212's a while back???? What I'm trying to say is, I don't think newer designs are prone to failures as much as 20 or 30+ year old built aircraft, single engine or not. Quote
Rotorboy2 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Hmmm, what was the original topic of this post again? Better change back to that subject quick. 407 driver sounds like he's getting 'randy'. Quote
hurler Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 The rumour may be true! I think the whole Alberta oil patch is going twin bird. Throughout the oil industry including the offshore environment, insurance rates dictate requirements and eventhough most flights are overland, for insurance reasons twin engine helicopters will become the standard. During the evolution and 90's boom in Alberta Oil standards where such, but with the active involvement of thrid party consulting companies like Contrail, safety requirements and what the insurance companies demand will change. OMG!! H Quote
red and white Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 I'll take a 212 with 20000 hours and risk it jetbox those aircraft are all new and need to be out for a while before I give them such glowing reviews. Quote
cap Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 Jetbox ------ doesn't make much difference whether you have two engines or 12 engines because if the C-Box "let's go" the engines are just along for the ride like you. Secondly, I wouldn't be too quick to supposedly "dump" on any of the R/W twins and their SE performance because a recent stat from the F/W world tells us that we are not alone. That stat tells us that of ALL the light twin-engined F/W a/c in the world at present, only 35 will maintain flight at "all-up gross weight". So when you loose an engine on a huge proportion of those twins, you also fly to the crash site or start throwing passengers and items out the door to maintain that flight. Light F/W twins don't autorotate all that well either believe me. Quote
hurler Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 What wisdom R&W! At least you can fly to the crash site! Just watch!, Soon the patch will be all ATPL too. Quote
Helilog56 Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 What wisdom R&W! At least you can fly to the crash site! Just watch!, Soon the patch will be all ATPL too. Gosh Hurler....i'll bet you mustered up all your vast experience on twins to come up with that profound bit of wisdom.... Quote
hurler Posted February 23, 2006 Report Posted February 23, 2006 HL 56 Are you picking on me because I fly model airplanes. Hey this forum is for everybody NO? H Quote
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