donut king Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 Just been e-mailed that our CHL EMS brothers have been certified by Labour Canada in their union application. Congrats boys and girls! Good luck in your negotiating. I believe many of us are watching? DK Quote
grover Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 Thanks DK, We have been well organized, well supported and well guided by the OPEIU. I know they will be wanting to work with other pilot groups Quote
412driver Posted October 20, 2005 Report Posted October 20, 2005 hmmmmm.......................... my grandpappy always said: be careful what you wish for, you may get it! sorry boys and girls. i am too anti-union to throw any congrats your way. i have always been free enterprise. i do it MY way, not what some union tells me to do. that being said,here's a challenge: i challenge one of the current ems pilots to post the current salaries for captain and co-pilot along with benefits ect at the current time. THEN, post the same in one year or when you get a new contract whichever comes first. i'm sure we all would be interested in the outcome................. Quote
412driver Posted October 21, 2005 Report Posted October 21, 2005 MAN....i cannot believe that this post is so quiet :shock: Quote
downwash Posted October 21, 2005 Report Posted October 21, 2005 Hey, Rob, have you never heard the expression "...where angels fear to tread"? Be glad that no-one seems to want to reopen that continually festering wound. After all, it never gets resolved, and only gets a lot of people angry when they could be addressing more constructive things. Quote
412driver Posted October 21, 2005 Report Posted October 21, 2005 i understand that DW, but here's a chance for all to see whether or not this union thing really is the "holy grail"............ here's a chance to get it right from the start. to publish the numbers for ALL to see. hey, if it proves me wrong so be it. at least i'm willing to go that far....... it isn't a debate anymore. they have organized. so now let's see all the numbers so that we can all see if it really was worth it........ that is....unless they are afraid................ Quote
jetbox Posted October 22, 2005 Report Posted October 22, 2005 Only two reasons that motivate employees to unionize: 1-The emplyees are lazy spoiled brats who don't appreciate what they have. 2-The employer treats the emplyees like crap, forcing them to organize and demand fair treatment. Either way, unions are there for reasons that shouldn't be. Quote
grover Posted October 22, 2005 Report Posted October 22, 2005 The major reason people signed OPEIU cards is for reason #2 of the previous post. We're fed up and are standing up for our rights to be treated with respect and be compensated in accordance with the Federal Labour Code, not according to the whims of a couple of senior managers.. Nothing is a "Holy Grail" but now there is strength in numbers and convictions and at least we can work to improve our system. If anyone thinks the union support was barely enough for certification, ask any of our pilots. The support is in excess of 85%. Quote
Social Distortion Posted October 22, 2005 Report Posted October 22, 2005 Rock on guys, great news that it has finally happened. I too am anti union, however in this instance, it's been alooong time coming and had the powers that be pulled their collective heads out of their ***** and realised that the EMS folks were serious, they may have been able to avert such an action, however come to think of it....I doubt it! I hope that it works in favour of you long suffering EMS drivers, god knows you guys deserve it. I remember the days of trying to garner any sense from the ******* and ****** flying circus well. Words from a song from that great 90's band, Guns n' Roses ring true......"What we've got here, is a failure to communicate, some men you just can't reach". :up: Quote
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