helipilot12 Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 I’m sure this has been discussed before but, has any one ever been able to find any legal argument to the averaging of flight pay, particularly for mins? Seems to me this should be an illegal practice to average, rather than do a daily total. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwbc Posted October 12, 2021 Report Share Posted October 12, 2021 Most Operators tell their pilots if the job is averaged or non-averaged mins before the start of the job. You have a choice if you don't want to do the work. If you feel strongly about not having your mins averaged, just say no! The majority of clients are charged averaged mins. Forestry might be the exception to the rule. I think you will have a hard time proving it is illegal because it's not...its all about how your contract is written. Maybe you need to learn better negotiating skills? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee3 Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Why are we even bothering with flight pay in this day and age! Day rate for the win. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted October 13, 2021 Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Bee3 said: Why are we even bothering with flight pay in this day and age! Day rate for the win. Motivation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helipilot12 Posted October 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 13, 2021 Well “nwbc” you are making the assumption that the pilot should be payed on what deal the heli company makes with the customer. I’m not sure that should have any relevance. If the heli operator wishes to make a deal with a client where averaged mins are payed rather than daily then why should that reflect onto the pilot doing the job? Also “just say no” to working certain jobs based on averaged vs daily mins? I feel like most of us don’t have that privilege to be so choosy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee3 Posted October 15, 2021 Report Share Posted October 15, 2021 On 10/13/2021 at 2:48 PM, shakey said: Motivation? Yes the motivation to push the weather etc is high on flight pay…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 4 hours ago, Bee3 said: Yes the motivation to push the weather etc is high on flight pay…. I think you missed the point even though I agree with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bee3 Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 26 minutes ago, shakey said: I think you missed the point even though I agree with you. Sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted October 16, 2021 Report Share Posted October 16, 2021 20 hours ago, Bee3 said: Sarcasm. I got ya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
412driver Posted November 4, 2021 Report Share Posted November 4, 2021 My work contracts were always straight forward. Either a daily rate or daily plus hourly mins, non-averaged. I always got the "we don't do that here" to which I replied "well, when you do, you know how to reach me." You stick to your guns. I have never been without work. Once that contract was signed or I gave my word, I always stuck to it, even when half way through I realized others were making more and I missed out. I just factored that in to the next years contract. Learn as you go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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