Boomtown Posted March 9, 2017 Report Posted March 9, 2017 just curious who is responsible for reporting accidents and or incidents to transport... seems the information that finds its way into the cadors is pretty hit and miss Quote
Mark_ Posted March 9, 2017 Report Posted March 9, 2017 Nobody is 'responsible' for posting in the cadors section, if you see an occurrence or incident feel free to post it. Mark. Quote
Boomtown Posted March 9, 2017 Author Report Posted March 9, 2017 Transport cadors not sub forum on vertical Quote
Freewheel Posted March 9, 2017 Report Posted March 9, 2017 Text from HAC Letter to Stephen Fletcher P.C., M.P. Minister of State for Transport, titled Regulatory Irritants, dated January 30/13 Civil Aviation Daily Occurrence Reporting CADORS Please note that for the most part, CADORS reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data which can be subject to change The above statement appears at the bottom of each CADOR report issued on the website. Generally speaking these initial reports contain incorrect information. Frequently these occurrences are written up and distributed without verification. The first call an operator gets from their PMI or POI is based on this supplied information. Time and resources are spent first of all, checking the accuracy of the report then supplying the accurate information to the PMI/POI. Issue: Accuracy checking of CADORS Reports before making them public. These unsubstantiated reports are immediately available to the public and others. Any immediate corrected information is not immediately made available. After-the-fact changes to a CADORS report are difficult to address or get changed as there is no clear responsibility on who has authority to make changes and or more importantly which organization can authorize a change to be made. Customers and Media react to these unsubstantiated CADORs very quickly. The reputation of the operator and future business is affected immediately by an incorrect CADORS Report. The inability to have its accuracy verified by the principal parties prior to publishing can put persons responsible for safety and airworthiness in a position of first correcting the report, then placating and reporting to TCCA POI/PMIs instead of immediate actions to correct or prevent re-occurrence. The direct impact on aviation safety is that the current process diverts the attention of persons who can affect positive change away from the immediate problem and towards being defensive over unsubstantiated and incorrect CADORs. Transport Canada has been approached on this issue in the regions and at headquarters. The operator has approached their PMI and a Safety officer with System Safety in Pacific Region. Both these persons were sympathetic to the operators concerns but had no official power to overturn or change a CADOR when another agency expressed reluctance. A suggestion was made to the operators PMI to have a scheduled hold on CADORs before going on the official website and providing public access. During this period the principals could respond to address accuracy with the PMI/POI until the principals and the POI/PMI approve it. A time period (3 business days) could be agreed on and if there was no operator response, the CADORS report could go out as written. Quote
212wrench Posted March 13, 2017 Report Posted March 13, 2017 807.01 The holder of an ATS operations certificate shall report to the Minister any aviation occurrence information specified in the CADORS Manual in accordance with the criteria and reporting procedures specified in that manual. Quote
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