Faa/tc Licensing Agreement

[Baja Guy]

From your original post, Phil, can I assume the "rumor" you heard originated from the FAA/TCCA Implementation Procedures for Licensing (IPL) Revision 1? I see it was signed by the FAA director on Dec 3 and by the TCCA director Dec 10. Above that, chapter V states "the FAA and TCCA agree to begin accepting applications for and processing the issuance of conversion certificates and licenses in accordance with Implementation Procedures no later than ninety (90) days from the date of entry into force".

Question: was the date of entry into force the date signed, or is it something else?

And yes, chapter 3 specifically includes helicopters now, while the appendix pages A9 through A13 outlines the conditions for conversion for commercial and ATPL helicopter.

[Baja Guy]

Never mind, just answered my own question.IPL revision 1, chapter 1, item 1.2 effective date and termination states that "these implementation procedures enter into force ninety (90) days after the signing of this agreement, and activity will commence in accordance with chapter 5). It was signed by the FAA on Dec 3, and by TCCA Dec 10.

On your mark; get set;........

[whippersnapr]

Good thing I found out about this; I had just printed out the FAA PPL equivalency form on Friday and was going to send it in today, not sure how that would affect me applying for the CPL.

[Baja Guy]

Might be a good idea to hold off a week or two, and see when the revision 1 of the IPL comes into force, or at least, see proof that it has. That will allow a Canadian CPL-H holder to directly convert to an FAA CPL-H by requesting your license validation, and then writing the CCH exam. No flight training or check ride will be necessary.

Also, it will allow a Canadian ATPL-H holder to directly convert to an FAA ATPL-H by requesting your license validation, and then writing the ACH exam. No flight training or check ride will be necessary AND the ACH exam does not require an ATPL ground school or sim training (like they do now in fixed wing) as authorization to write.

[HeliRico]

Ohh is that pure music to my ears!!

[1D1]

I understand converting my Canadian ATPL-H to the FAA ATPL-H is done by requesting license validation and successfully completing the ACH exam.

 

But does anyone know if converting the group 4 instrument rating will require completing the ICH exam? How about night rating, and aircraft endorsements? Will they be added to the license or will there be additional testing?

[Baja Guy]

The key word that I've left out would be "unrestricted" ATPL-H. I honestly don't know if they'll convert a restricted ATPL day/vfr only. Good question.

The requirements for night and instrument experience for the FAA ATPL are listed in the IPL annex (or appendix) and in 14 CFR Part 61. It requires more night and more instrument than the TC ATPL-H so be aware of that.

To answer your original question, if you qualify with an unrestricted ATPL, you do not need to write the ICH, and your FAA will have the same privileges as your TC, same with night. My ATPL study guide for FAA ATPL-H has lots of IFR info.

[Baja Guy]

I should have posted these links a long time ago. Enjoy:

http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/air_cert/international/bilateral_agreements/baa_basa_listing/media/Canada_IPL_rev1.pdf

And:

http://www.faa.gov/training_testing/testing/media/testing_matrix.pdf

[1D1]

thanks for the links Baja Guy.

 

what study guide are you using for the FAA ATPL-H?

[Hazy]

What's all the excitement about? Is the a lot of Nreg machines outside of the States needing pilots?