Skidz Posted October 7, 2014 Report Posted October 7, 2014 Cadors Number: 2014P1721 Occurrence Category(ies): Loss of control - inflight Abnormal runway contact Occurrence Information Occurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2014-09-26 Occurrence Time: 2210 Z Day Or Night: day-time Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0 Canadian Aerodrome ID: Aerodrome Name: Occurrence Location: 55NM southeast of Prince Rupert Province: British Columbia TC Region: Pacific Region Country: Canada World Area: North America Reported By: Transportation Safety Board of Canada AOR Number: TSB Class Of Investigation: Class 5 TSB Occurrence No: A14P0162 Occurrence Event Information Aircraft Information Registration Mark: GTYV Foreign Registration: Flight #: Flight Rule: UNK Aircraft Category: Helicopter Country of Registration: Canada Aircraft Make: BELL Aircraft Model: 206B Year Built: 1976 Amateur Built: No Engine Make: ALLISON Engine Model: 250-C20 Engine Type: Turbo shaft Gear Type: Sea Phase Of Flight: Takeoff Damage: Substantial Owner: Valley Helicopters Ltd. Operator: VALLEY HELICOPTERS LTD. (4269) Operator Type: Commercial CARs Subpart: Aircraft Event InformationLoss of control - inflight Propeller/rotor strike Occurrence Summary Date: 2014-10-06 Further Action Required: Yes O.P.I.: Commercial & Business Aviation Narrative: TSB Report#A14P0162: The Valley Helicopters Bell 206B, C-GTYV, on floats, was taking water samples from various lakes southeast of PRINCE RUPERT, BC. On lift off the left float tip remained in the water and the attempt to recover resulted in the tail rotor impacting the water causing substantial damage. The aircraft remained upright. There were no injuries to the pilot or 2 passengers. The emergency locator transmitter (ELT) did not activate. Please note that for the most part, CADORS reports contain preliminary, unconfirmed data which can be subject to change. Quote
Bif Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Glad this was minor!I haven't put my float rating to much use, but I know it can be tricky at times. Quote
Skidz Posted October 8, 2014 Author Report Posted October 8, 2014 Any drift (or current) on take-off can lead to DRO. If you take off too fast, you can get some suction on the floats and if that suction releases assymmetrically, you can also get into DRO pretty quick. The JetBuggy on floats sits pretty low in the water (considerably lower than a LongDog). You generally have about one foot of clearance for the TR on landing and take off. One of the freakiest things I've ever experienced is flying a LongRanger on bags for a few weeks, and then one afternoon, you're sent to do a "quickie" with a JetRanger on bags. That first water landing just scared the crap out of me ! Quote
HeliRico Posted October 8, 2014 Report Posted October 8, 2014 Thats a little sissy here skiddy !! I mean , " crap out of ya " ? Never heard an oldtimer talking about crapping that much over floats on a jet ranger ! Lol. Quote
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