naderbauer Posted December 1, 2013 Report Posted December 1, 2013 Hey, is anybody familiar with the current regs for installing GoPro Cameras on the outside of machines (landing gear or similar). Is there any paperwork requiered? 5 Quote
Three_Per Posted December 1, 2013 Report Posted December 1, 2013 Ha ha try CAR 702.03 "Getting epic shots with Go Pros on helicopters" A pilots guide. Seriously though, it would be considered an external load. Hard mounting it to any part of your aircraft without a proper STC for the mounting fixture i.e. camera boom would make it illegal. Suction cup mounts and excessive use of tape doesn't "modify the structure" of the aircraft but consider the consequence... Camera doesn't fall off = no violation, camera falls off with no injury or property damage = no violation Camera falls off with injury or property damage = violation. Quote
tin lizzie Posted December 1, 2013 Report Posted December 1, 2013 While we're on the subject (I was thinking of purchasing one), does anyone know if the Go Pro has sufficient speed/capability to capture a rotor system in motion as a proper blur, instead of a jerky bunch of individual blades? What parameter(s) am I shopping for to ensure a video camera has this capability? My Samsung Note II takes fantastic HD video, and has a setting to increase film speed, but any video I take of airplanes or helicopters in flight look stupid because of the way it records blade movement. A colleague was commenting that the phone didn't have sufficient frame rate per second capability, and people were finding this with the Go Pro too. For me this would be a deal breaker with respect to purchasing a Go Pro. A brief Google search uncovered something about wagon wheel effect on Wikipedia, but that article discussed other contributing factors (aside from FPS) and wasn't entirely helpful in answering my questions. I'd like to get a Go Pro myself (not necessarily for external mounting!) but not if it doesn't take good visuals of aircraft in motion. Any comments, advice or insight appreciated! Thanks! Quote
Hazy Posted December 1, 2013 Report Posted December 1, 2013 Go Pro 2 and adhesive mounts for me. I've placed a few mounts around the machine (inside and out) for different angles and re-usage. On my current settings (not sure what they are ) the rotors are not blurred. Garmin has a HD video cam out now too. Quote
tin lizzie Posted December 1, 2013 Report Posted December 1, 2013 Hi Hazy, The point IS to have blurred rotors (ie rotor disc) - the same as you see in real life - NOT individual blades, like you see on many recordings. You shouldn't be able to count the blades in a good video recording or see them moving backwards to the normal rotation! Can anyone confirm if the Go Pro is capable of sufficient speed/quality to achieve what I'm after? Thanks! Quote
Planker Posted December 1, 2013 Report Posted December 1, 2013 I used a GoPro Hero 2 for a while during flight training and the rotors are quite visible. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUJSwgZn0NU Quote
Hazy Posted December 2, 2013 Report Posted December 2, 2013 Hi Hazy, The point IS to have blurred rotors (ie rotor disc) - the same as you see in real life - NOT individual blades, like you see on many recordings. You shouldn't be able to count the blades in a good video recording or see them moving backwards to the normal rotation! Can anyone confirm if the Go Pro is capable of sufficient speed/quality to achieve what I'm after? Thanks! Ya I got that from your first post. What I can say is on the front of my camera, on the video setting, it is set to 960-30 and the rotors are visible. Not the effect you are trying to achieve, but the video is still decent quality. Good luck Quote
Hazy Posted December 2, 2013 Report Posted December 2, 2013 I'll set it to 960-48 (48 FPS) and see how it looks when I go back to work. The GP2 can be set to 120 FPS, but it will be SD. Cheers Quote
Helilog56 Posted December 2, 2013 Report Posted December 2, 2013 ****....I'm still trying to power up a Garmin GPS ??!?!?! 5 Quote
Icewind Posted December 2, 2013 Report Posted December 2, 2013 tin lizzie - you may have things backwards. The better the camera, (ie. the faster the effective shutter speed and greater light sensitivity) the better it stops the action = stopped rotor blades. If you want blurred rotor blades get a cheap low quality camera or set your camera to a very slow shutter speed or low light sensitivity. But be prepared for blurry motion of anything that is moving fast. Quote
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