OTR Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Can anyone shed confirmed light on to the outcome of Alpine Helicopters and the difficulties they were facing? 1 Quote
What Limits Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 Its all explained on the Canadian Transportation Agency website, search for Air - Rulings - 2012 - December. Basically they are not out of the woods yet, but have apparently resolved the ownership issues. Quote
logflyer Posted January 4, 2013 Report Posted January 4, 2013 https://www.otc-cta.gc.ca/eng/ruling/493-a-2012 Quote
OTR Posted January 7, 2013 Author Report Posted January 7, 2013 Thank you, will commence reading. Quote
Grasshopper Posted January 7, 2013 Report Posted January 7, 2013 .... have apparently resolved the ownership issues. And the 'apparent' is all to which we'll ever be privy. Whatever machinations and convolutions of share structure the U.S. owners have engineered in order to, quite likely, continue to circumvent the ownership requirements will remain beyond our ken. There is simply no meaningful transparency for the public on these issues. Whatever the reality, we're simply not given to know, and that, my friends just ain't right when the rest of the helicopter operators in the country have to live within the letter and the spirit of the regulations. Quote
OTR Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Posted January 8, 2013 Even after reading .... can someone put that into layman's terms for me. Fred Jones you out there?? Quote
twinstar_ca Posted January 8, 2013 Report Posted January 8, 2013 So, does this mean the future Mrs. TwinStar and myself can look forward to our heli-wedding come August?? Quote
Over-Talk Posted January 8, 2013 Report Posted January 8, 2013 Here's what I understood from it...... Alpine applied for a new licence with a new ownership team, but initially, that wasn't allowed by the CTA. So they increased the team's Canadian percentage to suit the CTA's ruling, and that was approved. But because the "new" Alpine was yet not established as a legal corporation by December 31st, the "old" Alpine was given 'another' extension to it's licence to operate until Feb 15th. (but to fly for CMH Heliskiing only). Note; "old" Alpine is a sister company to CMH. Both are owned by Intrawest (a US corporation) so it's not like "old" Alpine 'under-bid' any other company to get that work. If the "new" Alpine gets established as a legal Canadian corporation soon, the CTA will give them an Ops Certificate, and they will be able to continue business just like any other Canadian operator. Who the new Canadian owners actually are is in the "confidential Appendix". Quote
What Limits Posted January 8, 2013 Report Posted January 8, 2013 Just to clarify a couple of things that have come out of this. (Sorry O-T) Air Operators Certificates are issued (and taken away) by Transport Canada on behalf of the Minister of Transport. This ensures legal regulation through compliance with CARs and the Aeronautics Act. Once an AOC is issued, the Canadian Transportation Agency then issues a Licence for the Operator to provide an International or Domestic service, and is totally independent of the Department of Transport. This provides for economic regulation and this is why Alpine fell foul of the US ownership laws. Good luck with that. Quote
OTR Posted January 11, 2013 Author Report Posted January 11, 2013 Not wanting to start any poo flinging, another question arises, if this was a smaller less "connected" company would the treatment and consequence have been the same? I know this will be pure speculation, is this a fore shadowing of the times to come with the governmental body directed to administer the laws seeming to have been held at bay? Quote
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