RonnyRotor Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Other than the Obvious price difference. What are the REAL reasons behind burning Jet A as opposed to Jet B. So many ops are using Jet A and it doesnt make sense to me.... Quote
flingwinger Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Jet B is more flammable, and burns dirtier, more dangerous to handle/transport. It's got an anti icing additive that lowers the freezing point. Jet A jells at -47 or something so unless you plan on being out in weather colder than that you won't need it! Quote
skullcap Posted January 12, 2012 Report Posted January 12, 2012 Jet A is alot safer to be around compared to Jet B which has around 40% Naptha. This is why Jet B is nicer is cold temps for lighting off some machines, flash point is lower. Cannot get Jet b in most countries other than Canada. Jet A1 is great for Astars, but when is very cold still like Jet B. Had an interesting issue with Jet A in east due to fuel cloudiness in temps below -20 C. Was told by supplier was ok even though filters were clogging,,,oddly they would not supply anything in writing saying was ok,,,,got Jet B. Think it was parrafin. The Jet A after looking into was "traded/sold" by three companies after leaving refinery,,,,hmmm. Reputable fuel suppliers are very important! Quote
RonnyRotor Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Posted January 13, 2012 ok Now I am really confused after that first reply Quote
Hazy Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Skully, Experienced the same thing with Jet A1 from ESSO. Some drums were worst than others and we returned the really cloudy ones. Entrained water what freezing to crystals. Ronny, Jet B burns cleaner, but has less energy pound per pound than Jet A/A1. Jet A/A1 unfortunately limits some helicopters to -32/-18, which is fine by me. Jet A/A1 can cause birth defects in the long run. Jet B can cause cancer in the long run. I wonder what the Jet B supply is like these days? ie refineries producing it... 1 Quote
flingwinger Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Jet b does burn cleaner I had that backwards 1 Quote
Amphibious Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 Jet B cleans my motorcycle chain faster, but Jet A is easier on the o-rings 1 Quote
Freefall Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 You get slightly more range out of jet A Jet B doesn't get stolen as often Quote
RonnyRotor Posted January 13, 2012 Author Report Posted January 13, 2012 There is plenty of jet B in Edmonton if you want to pay more. To me its worth it since the cost is passed on to the customer. I get a better running engine a better start and a cleaner tailboom. its just me.. 2 Quote
lamanated Posted January 13, 2012 Report Posted January 13, 2012 BTU wise, I think its a couple hundred btu difference. so bit of power difference.And remember the winter fuel will have prist in it also. As for the cloudiness, I was part of an inquiry at the refinery where water and alcohol got into a tanker, Turns out a weld was done, tank was pressure washed and alcohol flushed, but some was left in the lines. I got to the job which was -30 and opened the lid. saw what looked like cold apple juice colored fuel, and the line was frozen solid. so we chipped the line out and opened the valve a bit and this slug of what looked like frog eggs filled the tupperware spares box,no response with the tan colornut, so the guys from the refinery came out and had a look. The result was, we found out we needed the brown colornut.There was a US airforce occurrence at about the same time with incorrect paste used.. Quote
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