bailey123 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 First flying job with mins, they are being averaged but I was curious is someone could explain it to me. I have 3 hr mins and they are averaged for the duration of the contract. Hows that work if I am flying 6hr days...I get payed for 6 and then what if I start flyings 2's. Thanks for the explanation. Quote
Iceman Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 At the end of the contract you get your guaranteed mins, more if you go over. Quote
ray Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 Over a 30 day period, you should have flown 90 hours. Even if you haven't flown it, you will get paid for it. If you fly more, you will get paid more. It essentially guarantees you a minimum income. Quote
Guest Angry Egg Driver Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 If you get daily mins and you fly 5 hours a day and then get a zero one day...you would still get 3 hours for that day.If you get averaged mins and you fly 5 hours a day and then a bunch of 0 hour days it all gets averaged at the end of your shift/tour. daily 5 5 5 0 0 = 21 hours averaged 5 5 5 0 0 = 15 hours Dailys are much better for the pilot than averaged.But it has to work both ways. Quote
pilot5 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 If you get daily mins and you fly 5 hours a day and then get a zero one day...you would still get 3 hours for that day.If you get averaged mins and you fly 5 hours a day and then a bunch of 0 hour days it all gets averaged at the end of your shift/tour. daily 5 5 5 0 0 = 21 hours averaged 5 5 5 0 0 = 15 hours Dailys are much better for the pilot than averaged.But it has to work both ways. Ah the games! It should be 4 hours per day not averaged...The whole averaged thing sounds alot to me like the " hey you are full time so we pay you less than the contract guys... no hold on we really mean seasonal full time so yur contract?????? Sorry no more work this season " hey I thought i was full time???. All year round??? Crap! better to just be Contract and charge GST. 4 hour daily mins. As far as i am concerned its really not my problem is the machine sits thats the loss and risk the big earner takes who owns the helicopter. If you want my services pay me if you want loyalty- Buy a dog! 2 cents 1 Quote
helimat Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 Wow..... +1. Speaking from experience, it's best to understand a contract before agreeing to it. Quote
pilot5 Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 +1. Speaking from experience, it's best to understand a contract before agreeing to it. Totally agree... unfortunately there are quite a few shifty characters out there that play word games.. How about a clear set of definitions that define what the various conditions and terms mean so there is no room for "other" interpretation... If there was there would be no pilot would ever find him or her self holding the bag as a fulltime/partime/seasonal... or was that contract averaged pilot??? P5 1 Quote
Guest Angry Egg Driver Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 Ah the games! It should be 4 hours per day not averaged...The whole averaged thing sounds alot to me like the " hey you are full time so we pay you less than the contract guys... no hold on we really mean seasonal full time so yur contract?????? Sorry no more work this season " hey I thought i was full time???. All year round??? Crap! better to just be Contract and charge GST. 4 hour daily mins. As far as i am concerned its really not my problem is the machine sits thats the loss and risk the big earner takes who owns the helicopter. If you want my services pay me if you want loyalty- Buy a dog! 2 cents No wonder you had to go to the other side of the world to work. 1 Quote
Zazu Posted August 25, 2011 Report Posted August 25, 2011 Ah the games! It should be 4 hours per day not averaged...The whole averaged thing sounds alot to me like the " hey you are full time so we pay you less than the contract guys... no hold on we really mean seasonal full time so yur contract?????? Sorry no more work this season " hey I thought i was full time???. All year round??? Crap! better to just be Contract and charge GST. 4 hour daily mins. As far as i am concerned its really not my problem is the machine sits thats the loss and risk the big earner takes who owns the helicopter. If you want my services pay me if you want loyalty- Buy a dog! 2 cents Oh man, if you are not concerned if the machine sits or not...am I ever glad that I don't swap machines with you...and yes I get paid mins! 1 Quote
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