R22Captain Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 puts it back in and cross threads it, and on the next leg of the journey it come loose, loses all the oil. documented case of this happening? 1 Quote
RatDog Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 documented case of this happening? I agree with Suddens point. The last name in the book (AME wise) is the one who will be getting grilled. May be he has seen a cross threaded chip detector, maybe not, it was being used as an example but once again it's the big picture aspect. Some of the ideas I've seen pilots come up with are pretty scary, are they going to be around to man up to the screw up? All he is saying is think about what you are doing, think big picture. If checking c/plugs is part of the elementry training, fill ur boots. And make a log book entry!! Cheers 2 Quote
hybrid Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 Get over yourself SS! I think the vast majority of us are capable of removing and re-installing an engine chip plug. As far as the "documented" case of installing a plug and cross threading it goes, the procedure after removing the plug is to run the engine for 20 minutes. After a 20 minute run (on the ground) you shut down and recheck the plug, it would be apparent that the engine was losing oil at this point, therefore not harming anyone. Of course it could cost a bit of money..... 1 Quote
R22Captain Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 that was exactly my point hybrid! 1 Quote
SuddenStop Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 documented case of this happening? do i really need to? we all know about the recent 212 fuel line issue being documented right? how about i just satisfy your ignorance with a titanium stud issue that did happen once, nobody gave a sh*t and the next time it happened...well you get the point. I've done enough chip plugs myself to know that crossthreading is a possibility to the ham fisted, correct torque and safetying is a mystery to many, and an oring might not make it thru the process either, so beyond that, you can search all the data bases you want to find any references...it's not worth my time as I already have my view on the subject. 1 Quote
R22Captain Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 we all know about the recent 212 fuel line issue being documented right? was that due to a pilot removing and reinstalling said fuel line? 3 Quote
SuddenStop Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 Get over yourself SS! I think the vast majority of us are capable of removing and re-installing an engine chip plug. As far as the "documented" case of installing a plug and cross threading it goes, the procedure after removing the plug is to run the engine for 20 minutes. After a 20 minute run (on the ground) you shut down and recheck the plug, it would be apparent that the engine was losing oil at this point, therefore not harming anyone. Of course it could cost a bit of money..... do your pilot friends carry the 250 maintenance manual around with them? how do they all know to run it for 20 on the ground? what if dark is approaching? will they cut it short to 5?? I'll share a personal experience with you on my motorcycle that could have ended badly. Oil change the night before I went on a 500km trip. Did a leak check....no different than I would ever do on a helicopter. No leaks...good to go. Around Barrie, some 300kms into my trip..wtf...smoke in my mirrors....oil light on....burning sensation on my left foot....pull over right away....you guessed it. drain plug completely gone...all oil on the road, rear tire and my foot....luckily i didn't drop it on the 400 with holiday weekend traffic racing behind me. so if you don't think it could happen on a helicopter....go right ahead and be blind. I'm of the belief it can. So if you want me to get over myself, take a long hard look at yourself too. you're an idiot. 3 Quote
R22Captain Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 guess you shoulda got a motorcycle mechanic to do it.....you know the riders aren't to be doing their own maintenance.... 3 Quote
flingwinger Posted July 23, 2011 Report Posted July 23, 2011 Get over yourself SS! I think the vast majority of us are capable of removing and re-installing an engine chip plug. you'd be surprised. 1 Quote
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