Iceman Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Well there is some truth to the above. However why not do both! Tool and Dye can provide the vehicle to get a licence and some income while you take the several years that are required to get enough experience to actually find a good paying job. If the money aint so hot you can have a stable career in Tool and dye and pay the bills until the right opportunity comes by. Always take a cautious approach and keep what you have. P5 Personally I say don't listen to Happyguy, most of what he said is BS. Quote
helicopterjim Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Personally I say don't listen to Happyguy, most of what he said is BS. Yup! I started in my late 20's and have flown over 14,000 hours since and done lots of the cool stuff everyone thinks pilot get to do and the best part is I'm not done yet. More adventures to come! Sorry Happyguy but it's not doom and gloom for everyone. Just those with a negative attitude. Believe it will happen and you have the first tool you need to make it happen! jas600 - I hope your choice leads you to a long and interesting career - whichever way you go! Jim Quote
jas600 Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks HelicopterJim I think thats the most positive post on here lol. But I do appreciate the honesty from everyone. I had considered the option of buying a helicopter/buying into a company and I think that I could realistically have that as an option (financing aside). I have some family members that are in the business and so I think that there could be some potential on that end of things but I dont want to count on that. Quote
Happyguy Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Spend your money on an education that will provide you and your family with a future. If you feel a need to hear wolves and watch sun sets on glaciers then take a vacation to NWT and let guys like Iceman work for you as your tour guide / chauffer. Look, nothing against Iceman...I know lottsa Neanderthals who fly helicopters......I'm just not one of them, and don't want to be. But, if you just gotta fly then join the military.... Quote
Happyguy Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 It's not a negative attitude that brings me to these conclusions it's experience and it's the reality for the vast majority of rotor wing pilots who fly in Canada, just look at the ratio on this post. Most continue to fly in an effort to get back the huge investment they have made and then they are gone. Onto something with a future. Not a lot of older pilots out there in their 40's / 50's, at least not the type of guys you'd want your sister to marry, and there's a reason for that..... Quote
pilot5 Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 It's not a negative attitude that brings me to these conclusions it's experience and it's the reality for the vast majority of rotor wing pilots who fly in Canada, just look at the ratio on this post. Most continue to fly in an effort to get back the huge investment they have made and then they are gone. Onto something with a future. Not a lot of older pilots out there in their 40's / 50's, at least not the type of guys you'd want your sister to marry, and there's a reason for that..... Well Happyguy, there is some truth to your posts, however and I speak from almost 22- going on 23 years in this industry. There are many hurdle s to overcome, things to learn. Not every operator,if you get that first job is going to be a pleasure to work for!. ( so choose wisely)In fact there are only a handful of good companies with good management structures IMHO. So its really a question of finding a good personal fit. Getting going is the hardest part and there are lots of guys that just don't make it at all, for whatever the reason- attitude, age, experience in dealing with people. It's a sought after job, and the rewards can be great but there is a predisposition especially amongst younger people that its easy going. But like any other career there are hurdles to overcome and the biggest one is convincing the owner that you will not destroy his machine and sink his business, as it doesn't take much and the margins on profits are not what they used to be. ( any person who has been in the industry for a while will confirm this) So logic says that any ####-up will have potential disastrous outcome. So the mentality of operators for the most part follows with this in mind. A University degree is a good idea (period) it gives you some backup in life and something to fall back on or even helps with work while you are following the illusive dream. But on the other side don't be showing up on a job site using big words and expect everybody to be impressed, I learned this from experience as I have a degree and its best to dull it down a bit nobody likes a person who is or is perceived to be smarter or better educated than the next guy. Its offensive to most. No way to make friends or to develop a favorable opinion in others. That being said. Having a trade like Tool and Die ( dye) and steady job is a great back up untill you find the right opportunity. It can provide a way of paying bills and reducing stress levels until you find the right situation. Always have a backup plan no matter what it applies to. So follow the dream. Personally I would rather regret the things I have done than the things I haven't. But that's just me. Enjoy the ride, life is short. P5 Quote
Iceman Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Happyguy you really have no idea what you are talking about. Like helicopterjim I have had a great career. I had a late start at 30 years old and now have 15 years of great experiences which you happyguy will never see due to your rotten attitude. By the way I have a great women and family and my income is more than ample to keep us all smiling. Happyguy it's obvious you are a bitter person and still a pilot wannabe or you wouldn't be trolling this site spreading your drivel. Quote
MMike Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 16 replies......and it's a b|tch-fest again......... Quote
jas600 Posted September 13, 2010 Author Report Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks Pilot5 and Iceman, Its nice to see that there are guys that have "normal" family lives in this business. I dont have a family yet and so I think that I am probably in a good position to pursue this career in that aspect. And I totally agree with you Pilot5, I would much rather regret the things I've done in my life than the things I haven't. And I realize that for the most part with online forums there are people always posting that seem to only have a bitter opinion of something and want nothing more than for their opinion to be heard for whatever reason so I am taking all of this with a grain of salt lol And just to clear this up..... Its tool and "die" lol. I dont work with color or ink haha Quote
kube Posted September 13, 2010 Report Posted September 13, 2010 Thanks Pilot5 and Iceman, Its nice to see that there are guys that have "normal" family lives in this business. I dont have a family yet and so I think that I am probably in a good position to pursue this career in that aspect. And I totally agree with you Pilot5, I would much rather regret the things I've done in my life than the things I haven't. And I realize that for the most part with online forums there are people always posting that seem to only have a bitter opinion of something and want nothing more than for their opinion to be heard for whatever reason so I am taking all of this with a grain of salt lol And just to clear this up..... Its tool and "die" lol. I dont work with color or ink haha Funny thing, We repair engine, component and Air Frame parts for O/H shops and operators. We are always looking for people with your type of training. For every 25 resumes we get 1 or 2 might be worth an interview. You might find your current trade might help you enter the Industry. Quote
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