Iceman72 Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 Two items on the Long Ranger that should be noted is that when the tail boom is doing that dance number when your on the ground, this can in most cases be taken out if you are able to go in and fine tune the centering of the trunion on the main rotor hub nine times out of ten will settle the boom down. And the other item is in the design of the M/R blades you will find that when you are flying in temps normally below -20/-25 in staight cruise that the ship will slow down, this can be gained back by beeping down 2-3%. This first came to light back in the early 80's when a B.C. company had a number of ships (B's and L's) heading up to Tuk together and when they got into the colder temps the B's were passing the L's . yet as soon as they beeped down the speed came up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Continuous Posted May 29, 2010 Report Share Posted May 29, 2010 I agree Iceman, The beeping back also applies when coming out of a hole. You must be patient and obviously not stir the soup but as I recall after beeping back you could get a vertical rate of climb going. I think these two things are an old medium trick. Just one other quirk with the blades...when coming out of a hole heavy, the L-3 blades would leave fantastic fog spirals from the tips with surprisingly low humidity. Cool to see! Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over-Talk Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 If the tailboom does start oscillating/humping at idle, just bring up the idle RPMs a little and it should stop. Eventually you can try to repair the 'wobble' as mentioned above, but until then I'm sure it's not good to have all that humping going on. A sling load will roll back and forth on that hook/track until you get used to it. DO NOT stick a nut and bolt through the little hole in the track to stop it from rolling!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helidriver68 Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 well you should enjoy the L it is very comfy and usually a good machine , one thing that the guys touched on , was the TAIL WAG at idle for start up and cool down or when your on the ground waiting for your customers it smooths out if you IDLE AT 70% N1 this will smooth out and not as hard on the tailboom as well , also remember the transient is different than a jetranger it is the same ,but different , learn your machine ,,,,,,the font fuel drains under the mid seats ,,,,,dont be alarmed if nothing drains out of them when you have less than 300LBS of fuel on board when slinging , the L will let you know just how smooth you are,,,,,lol if it does start to roll on the rail from side to side , reduce speed and do a slight turn or s turn to stabilize , it all comes with time ,,,,, cheers and enjoy the dual hydralics in the B3 lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venus Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Keep in mind that your seats offer no energy attenuation and will likely result in major spinal injury in the event of a hard landing. Passengers in the back are sitting on the fuel bladder, so you might want to make sure they are aware of the fire extinguisher location. The main gear box is only certified to stay attached to the airframe for 4 G's max. before it can come ripping through the cockpit in the event of a hard landing, so a helmet is also a really good idea. Fly safe and in your spare time check the log book....you might see your older brother or dad's name listed as PIC somewhere in there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freefall Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Keep in mind that your seats offer no energy attenuation and will likely result in major spinal injury in the event of a hard landing. Passengers in the back are sitting on the fuel bladder, so you might want to make sure they are aware of the fire extinguisher location. The main gear box is only certified to stay attached to the airframe for 4 G's max. before it can come ripping through the cockpit in the event of a hard landing, so a helmet is also a really good idea. Fly safe and in your spare time check the log book....you might see your older brother or dad's name listed as PIC somewhere in there. I think someone has an ec120 or 130 they are trying to justify. The seats are designed to colapse and the panels under them are crush panels that will obsorbe some impact as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Col. Kilgore Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Keep in mind that your seats offer no energy attenuation and will likely result in major spinal injury in the event of a hard landing. Passengers in the back are sitting on the fuel bladder, so you might want to make sure they are aware of the fire extinguisher location. The main gear box is only certified to stay attached to the airframe for 4 G's max. before it can come ripping through the cockpit in the event of a hard landing, so a helmet is also a really good idea. Fly safe and in your spare time check the log book....you might see your older brother or dad's name listed as PIC somewhere in there. uh, oh. Somebody hates Long Rangers. Your dad or brother might be in the log book because the aircraft has been flying reliably from inspection interval to inspection interval throughout the life of the airframe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Continuous Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I used to carry a clean water bottle with me for sampling the front tanks. Cut a notch across the top and it fits nicely on the drains. It's better than starting every day with fuel dripping off your elbow. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF_was_that Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Its grandpas ride and needs to flown the way he drives, slow and steady. (damm kids) proper approaches, land into wind. Think ahead of the aircraft, plan your next move, This old girl isn't going to bail your *** out. its has power, similar to grandpas 1970's grain truck, it will make it up the hill, you just need to believe. It has no tail-rotor authority. Just remember if you slow the main rotor down, following some bad advice on here, it also slows the tail-rotor, making you tail-rotor authority some-where in the swapping ends oh #### area. It doesn't say anywhere in the POH to do this. If you think you need more lift, toss some passengers/cargo out. Your paid by the hour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Auto Relight Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 It has no tail-rotor authority. Just remember if you slow the main rotor down, following some bad advice on here, it also slows the tail-rotor, making you tail-rotor authority some-where in the swapping ends oh #### area. It doesn't say anywhere in the POH to do this. If you think you need more lift, toss some passengers/cargo out. Your paid by the hour You beat me to it. Pay very close attention to the above, I can't believe people are still propagating these notions. AR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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