212wrench Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 And the magic words are "how much bucks?" Isn't that why Bell canceled the 417? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGP Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I think you are right but also the military version was canned because the price had tripled and that would have been the incentive for the 417 to procede .....read that as being big bucks...so when the military said NO...then the civilian one would have put the bite on the 407 market...read that as shoot yourself in the foot...so when you have a pile of part for a machine you are not going to build...DAH...thank goodness for a company that will take all those parts and do something positive will them and give us civilians a better produce to work with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
epicyclic Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 one problem still lies.....the rearward pax interlocking legs... damit...no STC for that one B2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kato Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 **** B2... You one of those glass half empty kinda guys? ... your right ergonomics has never been bells strength. Just the same i am excited to see this thing in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MMike Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 That was quick. Someone has already added the 407hp to wikipedia..... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_407 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bag swinnger Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 I am not a 407 guy but I would think that interlocking legs to be better than a front love seat in the astar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teabagger Posted February 26, 2010 Report Share Posted February 26, 2010 Must agree with bag swinger. Maybe the astar will preform a bit better hot and high, but put in the love seat and then you start encountering c of g problems when you load it up with pax. Not an issue when feet are interlocked. I remember chatting to one of the guys who was somewhat involved in the 417 project when they scrapped it. He basically said that Bell thought the difference in performance didn't justify the added cost. He said they were trying things like 429 blades to try to get it to lift like they had anticipated, but no joy. Maybe Eagle is on to something though. If the hp conversion reduces operating coast and improves hot high performance, maybe the cost of the upgrade would be justified. Only time will tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koalaa119 Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 I love the 407 and even if they don't increase the internal or external limits with the Eagle mod, it will make the a/c so much more usefull in the mountains in the summer. As it is right now, you can't use it's weight capacity in the heat of the summer and at high alt. It would be like the D2 mod on the astar. It would make a good helicopter better and more usefull. koala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotormatic Posted March 1, 2010 Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 Anyone hear how much the converison will cost? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
06HeliMAN Posted March 1, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2010 According to this http://www.ainonline.com/news/single-news-...neywell-engine/ the price hasn't been announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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