rotorheadrob Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'm guessing everone who is posting doesn't own a helicopter?? I'm also guessing I'm right??? :boff: rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2007 Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Better rethink that one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full On Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 Looks like Guardian and NAS are the bottom feeders. What a joke. It is not only the charter business that has bottom feeders. Rates from these newly rated flight schools are getting chopped to ridiculous amounts. We only have these loosers to thank for the decline in the industry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Mike Posted October 3, 2009 Report Share Posted October 3, 2009 I'm guessing everone who is posting doesn't own a helicopter?? I'm also guessing I'm right??? :boff: rob Sorry, Wrong!! Give it time and they will go away- I've seen it happen several times in the past. Poor guys that have to fly and maintain those machines. B.M. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 It is not only the charter business that has bottom feeders. Rates from these newly rated flight schools are getting chopped to ridiculous amounts. We only have these loosers to thank for the decline in the industry. Schools are the least of the problems with this industry but are driven by the same greed as everyone else that decides to open a heli business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darksidelogger Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Yep Black Mike is right For the previous 1.5 years several of our competitors have been sewering the rates steady several examples are 1. extremely low Hourly suck in the customer and BAMMo $2.50 per liter for fuel and by the way the longranger burns 190 liters per hour got all my customers back when they realized the fuel rate and the burn were a bit OFF.... 2. Or tell the customer don't worry it only takes a .4 and then Bammo sorry head wind both ways actually took a .8 sign here please. 3. had Lots of customers say sorry we have a company here who will do it substanially cheaper and they are also supplying a jetranger free of charge for no mins in August. here we are fall 0f 2009 and two declared bankrutpcy and the other 2 have downsized considerably some by 50% I have had lots of customers switch to the cheaper option for a while and then come back and say Yeah its a bit cheaper but i have to look after everything and then +++++++++ So hey like the great plains of Africa the herd is in full gallop the lions are giving chase and slow, weak, and sick are falling behind and looking ever more tasty Have a good Fall everybody DSL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimit Posted October 6, 2009 Report Share Posted October 6, 2009 There are survivors small and large out there: Black Mike, the Stubbs (Delta Helicopters) and the Nories (VIH Aviation Group) all come to mind as operators who know how to make a profit and stay in business. What's interesting about these three is that they represent 3 different, successful business strategies. There's definitely no right answer! Well, actually there is a right answer: Revenue must exceed expenses. Cheers, Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 There are survivors small and large out there: Black Mike, the Stubbs (Delta Helicopters) and the Nories (VIH Aviation Group) all come to mind as operators who know how to make a profit and stay in business. What's interesting about these three is that they represent 3 different, successful business strategies. There's definitely no right answer! Well, actually there is a right answer: Revenue must exceed expenses. Cheers, Dick Revenue must exceed everything! Employees quality of life, wages and last and most least safety. This industry is no different than any other. Once in a while some will fall but most will plug away until the next gold rush. Its foolish too think that the under cutting rats will fail cause they wont the honest and hard working finish last. Have you all been asleep since the 50's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shakey Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Oh yeh! I also find it hilarious that a flight school is whining about being screwed over Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Full On Posted October 7, 2009 Report Share Posted October 7, 2009 Oh yeh! I also find it hilarious that a flight school is whining about being screwed over Nobody is whining... just stating fact. Flight School or charter operations, nobody needs undrercutters in any business. Think about that when your employer decides to cut your wages so he can compete with others and keep you employed. PRJB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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